Friday, August 19, 2022

Possessive suffixes

[This is taken from the Duolingo Hungarian Tips and Notes ]

Possessive suffixes

In many languages, you use possessive adjectives to express who a certain object belongs to :

  • my table or her shoe

Hungarian does not have possessive adjectives like my or her instead possessive suffixes. They are similar to possessive adjectives in that they indicate the person and number of the possessor but they are attached to the noun:

  • az asztalom ‘my table’

  • a cipője ‘her/his shoe’

The forms are as follows:

HungarianEnglish
1SG-öm-om-mmy
2SG-öd-ed-od-dyour (sg.)
3SG-je-ja-ahis/her/its
1PL-ünk-unk-nkour
2PL-(ö)tök-(e)tek-(o)tokyour (pl.)
3PL-jük-juk-uktheir

They require vowel harmony so if a noun ends in a vowel... cipő ‘shoe’ has front vowels and ends in a vowel, so its forms are:

HungarianEnglish
1SGcipő-mmy shoe
2SGcipő-dyour (sg.) shoe
3SGcipő-jeher/his shoe
1PLcipő-nkour shoe
2PLcipő-tökyour (pl.) shoe
3PLcipő-jüktheir shoe

asztal ‘table' has back vowels and ends in a consonant, so its forms are:

HungarianEnglish
1SGasztal-ommy table
2SGasztal-odyour (sg.) table
3SGasztal-aher/his table
1PLasztal-unkour table
2PLasztal-otokyour (pl.) table
3PLasztaluktheir table


Possessors

Hungarian has two ways of expressing the possessor of something, like the two English constructions a friend's book and a book of a friend.

Possessors can be in the nominative case, e.g. a lány, or dative, e.g. a lánynak:

  • a lány cipője ‘the girl's shoe’
  • a lánynak a cipője ‘the girl's shoe’

The constructions can mean the same, but they differ in some ways. The dative (a lánynak) is followed by a ‘the’ , and you have to use the dative in questions with whose:

  • Ez kinek a cipője? ‘Whose shoe is this?’

whose in this sentence is ki-nek, the dative of ki ‘who’.

Exceptions

As usual, there are exceptions to the rule.
When the possessor is third person plural, the forms can change in one of two ways. 
First, when the possessor is a pronoun, ők ‘they’, the pronoun loses its -k. (This only happens with ők, all other pronouns stay intact.)


  • az ő cipőjük ‘their shoe’
  • az ő asztaluk ‘their table’

So it looks like a singular possessor, but it is still plural.
Second, when the possessor is a noun in the plural, like a lányok, the possessed noun loses its plural ending -(j)uk or -(j)ük:

  • a lányok cipője ‘the girls' shoe’
  • a lányok asztala ‘the girls' table'


See also this blog post:    -ja or -juk




mineyours, ...

Hungarian also has possessive pronouns corresponding to mineyours, etc. They always include the definite article a/az and are formed as follows:

HungarianEnglish
1SGaz enyémmine
2SGa tiéd or a tiedyours (sg.)
3SGaz övéhers/his
1PLa miénkours
2PLa tiétekyours (pl.)
3PLaz övéktheirs

You can use these forms in sentences like:

Ez a cipő az enyém. ‘This shoe is mine.’

Dropping a vowel

Some words drop the last vowel in the plural /in the accusative case / in possessive forms. We can call this a "fleeting vowel".

For example:

étterem - restaurant

éttermek - restaurants

éttermet - restaurant (accusative)

étterme - his/her restaurant

éttermem - my restaurant

Here we show the accusative singular and the 3rd person singular possessive forms, the other possessive forms follow the pattern.

English       HU nominativeaccusative3SG possessive
restaurantéttereméttermetétterme
room, hallteremtermetterme
strawberryeperepretepre
mirrortükörtükröttükre
statueszoborszobrotszobra
monkeymajommajmotmajma
tailfarokfarkatfarka
bushbokorbokrotbokra
dreamálomálmotálma
(lion) cubkölyökkölykötkölyke





Long forms + this that

As we saw earlier, usually we can choose between a short form and a long form to show possession:

the boy's dog = a fiú kutyája / a fiúnak a kutyája

the girl's cat = a lány macskája / a lánynak a macskája

However, if you use the possessor with this/that, you have to use the longer form (with the -nak-nek ending)

this boy's dog = ennek a fiúnak a kutyája

that boy's dog = annak a fiúnak a kutyája

this girl's cat = ennek a lánynak a macskája

that girl's cat = annak a lánynak a macskája

If the possessor is plural:

these boys' dog = ezeknek a fiúknak a kutyája

those girls' cat = azoknak a lányoknak a macskája



Note:

the long form is also used if you have a chain of possessives, for example

"my friend's daughter's shoe"  = A barátnőm lányának a cipője


see:  https://duolingo.hobune.stream/comment/30370593



The plural of possessed nouns

You've already learned quite a bit about possession in Hungarian. You might have noticed, however, that the examples so far were missing something, namely
plurals of possessed nouns.

While usually plurals of nouns are indicated by the suffix -k (with a vowel preceding it), when we're dealing with a possessed noun, like his bosses, the plural is formed in a different way, with -i. So:

  • Péter főnöke ‘Péter's boss’
  • Péter főnökei ‘Péter's bosses

The great thing about this suffix is that there's no vowel harmony. It's simply -i and remains -i. Thus:

  • Éva asztala ‘Éva's table’
  • Éva asztalai ‘Éva's tables

Let's look at the plural forms of the words cipő and asztal that we discussed in the Tips and Notes of "Ownership". Cipő ‘shoe’ has front vowels and ends in a vowel, so its possessed forms are:

HungarianEnglish
1SGcipő-immy shoes
2SGcipő-idyour (sg.) shoes
3SGcipő-iher/his shoes
1PLcipő-inkour shoes
2PLcipő-itekyour (pl.) shoes
3PLcipő-iktheir shoes

asztal ‘table' has back vowels and ends in a consonant, so its possessed forms are:

HungarianEnglish
1SGasztal-aimmy tables
2SGasztal-aidyour (sg.) tables
3SGasztal-aiher/his tables
1PLasztal-ainkour tables
2PLasztal-aitokyour (pl.) tables
3PLasztal-aiktheir tables



Ő, Ők

Be careful, ők gets shortened to ő in some possessive structures, and only the possessive ending shows the possessor:

az ő széke - his/her chair

az ő székük - their chair

az ő székei - his/her chairs

az ő székeik - their chairs

az ő háza - his/her house

az ő házuk - their house

az ő házai - his/her houses

az ő házaik - their houses






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